


Just really like the idea of a nobleman beating an armored foe repeatedly with a wooden stick while yelling "BACK YOU UNCULTURED SWINE" in a high pitched voice while jumping around 30 feet and climbing across walls using spells. I know this character definitely won't be blasting through crowds of monsters like a regular warlock and be acting more like a buffing/frontline support character, I just don't want him to be a complete anchor for the group. I'm planning on taking mostly non-damaging utility spells instead of damaging spells (Jump, Spider climb, Retreat, longstrider, etc.). I'm a relatively new player and this is my second character I've tried to plan so I'm looking for advice.

Pact of the tome allows casting of Shillelagh using charisma instead, but you lose the double attack and necrotic damage bonuses (and rp value) of pact of the blade. The downside is that Shillelagh will need to be taken as a magic initiate feat at lvl 4 and is based on wisdom instead of charisma (druid spell). Pact of the blade is the more clear choice for this build since it's basically the melee warlock build pact. What I'm not decide on is the pact for this character. (assuming a cane is the same damage or lower compared to a club) Now a walking stick isn't normally the first choice of weapon, so I was looking into taking Shillelagh to turn the wooden cane into a d8+spellcasting ability instead of 1d4 strength based. It's not going to be a maximum damage build, it's just mostly for comedic relief in the group but I'd like him to be somewhat useful at least. The image I have in mind is a nobleman with a cane/waking stick that he uses to beat people over the head. In fact, because they list the shortspear and spear separately I would have thought it was obvious that Druids are not proficient in long spears, or more generally all spears.I'm playing with a new idea for a character build. So no, they are no proficient with the long spear, the boar spear, or the weighted spear or any other type of spear unless listed in the proficiency statement for the class (like the shortspear). They mean specifically the thing that says spear on the equipment table. When the druid entry says proficient with spear, they don't mean all spear weapons or spear like weapons or weapons with spear in the name. (Though there is a specific example of Tengu's swordtrained, but that is an obvious exception). The is no such thing as being proficient in "spears" as a category. There are no weapon categories for proficiency except simple, martial exotic and for determining things related to the Fighter class weapon training (and a few other very niche examples). Shadowlords wrote: Wait so druids can not use a long spear, or a boar spear or a weighted spear, because they are not specifically called out as proficient with them, do they not fall under the spear category? Likewise, in a campaign with heavy use of the Tree stride spell, oak trees can serve as portals and would likely be more restricted in placement. In most situations, having every wooden item you own and every tree you encounter being oak, won't actually create any issues.īasically, the logic is that the GM can give you a spruce club, should the shillelagh club be more than they intended to give you. Again, I think this is more a GM plot device/balance option. The tree stride spell, also varies by wood type. It doesn't target "an oak club, or a quarterstaff."Īnd as for getting oak, I've always assumed that the idea was that you could pick normal wood types when you buy the item, but the oak restriction is just there for the GM to have a way to limit the spell if it becomes problematic or if they want to add a plot device. On a side note, using proper English, the quarterstaff has to be oak too. Though that said, if you do allow clubs to include greatclubs, then can druid use a longspear? I think the intention is likely that only normal clubs qualify, so if you want the greatclub damage, you'll have to take the -2 attack roll for an oversized club. Mechanically, the medium greatclub is a large club without the size penalty. Seems silly that a greatclub wouldn't be allowed, but club one size too large would.
